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(Actually, I think thats a quote fromGossip Girlauthor Cecily von Ziegesar, but I digress.)
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Vogue: How does it feel to finally have your book in the world?
Kelsey McKinney:It feels really good.
Im really happy to have the book out.
and Alex would be like, No, thats boring.
To be clear, Alex is right; it didnt belong.
Its such a different experience than publishing the novel.
I kind of published this thing that I cared so much about but that no one else cared about.
Its been nice to publish something that people care about and want to talk to me about.
And its interesting because it just shows that gossiping is about connection, right?
But men talk about sports and no one says that, right?
That is something that people in power love to say: Oh, its just gossip.
What is the most profound impact that gossip has had on your life?
And its like, well, yeah, because they know that talk is cheap and talk is effective.
Dont work for this person.
Pay attention to what this person says to you.
That kind of gossip can be salvation, and can protect you.
Whats the biggest thing youve learned about gossip from hosting your podcast and writing this book?
Ive learned that you shouldnt go on bachelorette party trips.
Really, the first piece of information is just dont do it.
Bachelorette parties are where so much gossip comes from.
When we talk about gossip, people are always talking about high school, right?
Theyre like, High school gossip functions this way.
Gossip, in and of itself, is not a moral good or a moral evil.
Its something we do to try and understand where we are.
The more uncomfortable you are in a space, the more youre going to need that skill.
This conversation has been edited and condensed.
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