As soon as she entered the space, she noticed its walls.

Installation view ofYto Barrada: Le Grand Soir, on view at MoMA PS1.

Le Grand Soir opened in PS1s courtyard in late April, just in time for the warmer months.

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The artist Yto Barrada has two shows up in New York City this summer.

Its in songs, its in literature.

And it means what we yearn for: the times of social justice.

It makes a lot of sense today.

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Installation view ofYto Barrada: Le Grand Soir, on view at MoMA PS1.

Barrada also tapped into the history of Moroccan acrobats for Le Grand Soir.

I have to fight against the storytelling.

I love that people can enjoy the work without knowing anything, she tells me.

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Yto Barrada,Photogram 53,2017.

I think thats one of the reasons its such a successful piece in the courtyard, says Graf.

But if you do want to jump in, she gives you all the clues.

She would rather you approach the work and come up with your own interpretations.

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Yto Barrada,Photogram 49,2017.

But, of course, there is always a story if you ask.

I booked the darkroom, I got there, and I had forgotten my negatives.

I was focusing on the constraint that I had inherited being a busy mom, says Barrada.

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Yto Barrada,Practice Piece (Sewing Exercise #4B),2019. © Yto Barrada, courtesy of Pace Gallery.

Yto Barrada,Practice Piece (Sewing Exercise #4B),2019.

Yto Barrada, courtesy of Pace Gallery.

An example of Barradas work with natural dyes from her show at Pace in London.

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An example of Barrada’s work with natural dyes from her show at Pace in London. Artwork: Yto Barrada.Untitled (Color Wheel I),2024. © Yto Barrada, courtesy of Pace Gallery.

Artwork: Yto Barrada.Untitled (Color Wheel I),2024.

Yto Barrada, courtesy of Pace Gallery.

I have projects that are so embedded, she says.

One is in the beginning, one is in the middle.

The dye pot is out.

So the projects end up beingI love this word in French,debordement, going beyond the border.

It keeps thedebordementin check.