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Chloe Malle:Jack, tell us about your night last night?
Jack Schlossberg:I was by myself.
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I tried to watch with my sisters and dad and but I lasted about five minutes.
At that point, I was still excited and I didnt know what was going on.
Malle:What did you eat?
Schlossberg:Steak because I got so much steak earlier this week.
Leftover steaknothing wrong with that.
And Ive made mayonnaise kind of my thing this year, so I did put mayonnaise on it.
Taylor Antrim:God, I love mayonnaise.
My daughter and I love mayonnaise.
Malle:What time did you go to bed and what was happening?
Schlossberg:I did not go to bed…Im not sad.
Im disappointed the person that I voted for didnt win.
I think that a lot of people my age maybe arent really proud to be a Democrat.
And I think that this election is very interestingly showing that Democrats have some work to do there.
So, it didnt work outbut you dont always win.
Malle:It was galvanizing.
There was electricity to the campaign that wouldnt have been there otherwise.
How do you square it all?
Schlossberg:I think both things can be true.
Those are also more vague, and maybe they didn’t translate as well.
It’s very dramatic.
Schlossberg:He built a really diverse, broad coalition.
I dont think that’s why Trump won.
I think that it really did make a big difference for people.
Malle:You spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania.
What was your feeling on the ground in person?
Which I didnt see coming.
And I think kind of happened pretty fast.
Like, this idea that Trump is down-the-middle…. Antrim:What is your thinking about a media appetite, Jack?
What is the way to be an informed person now?
Or they do a podcast, like Joe Rogan, which is not how it used to be.
So, I don’t know where traditional media goes from here.
No one that I know watches cable news.
You have to make social media videos or they’ll be watching something else.
So thats a big surprise, actually.
But I think, obviously, a different message resonated this time.
Malle:Ok, what were a few bright spots for Democrats?
Antrim:I mean, I think about North Carolina where Josh Stein beat Mark Robinson.
Schlossberg:Senator Tammy Baldwin held onto her seat in Wisconsin.
Im very excited about that.
Hopefully, Laura Gillen in New York, in Nassau County, will win.
Malle:Sarah McBride, the first transgender rep in U.S. history, won in Delaware.
Antrim:Im curious about who this election is going to make space for in the Democratic Party.
Theres a lot of very exciting people.
I think that, hidden behind all of this is a changing of the guard.
President Biden wont be either.
And at the same time, the party clearly needs to change what its focusing on.
So I think theres a lot of room for development.
Antrim:I think also about Maryland Governor Wes Moore.
Schlossberg:The next person has got to be really good on social media.
Im convinced of this.
I think if nothing else that’s now paramount to any campaign.
You have such an advantage if the candidate is a content machine.
Antrim:What did you make of the word-salad criticism of Harris?
And they didnt get to do that or test anything so everyone was kind of guessing.
Malle:What would you say to people who are struggling this week and advice on getting through it?
Chloe Schama wrote a nice piece abouthow to talk to your kidsabout the election.
I really struggled with that this morning.
Schlossberg:Well, theres midterms in two years.
Trump is a one-term president.
Even if Harris had won, we would still have to keep working really hard.
And, you know, Democrats lost for a really long time; my parents always say that.
But I grew up with Bill Clinton and Obama, so it seemed like we could win.
Its going to be okay.
Schlossberg:Well I started reading poetry last night, which shows you my mental state.
Malle:Poetry is actually a very good note.
Antrim:What are your poetry search terms, Chloe?
Actually…lets save that for another pod.
