I did loads of thinking about masculinity, and football crowds…
I was a real sporty, tomboy child, and I started reconnecting with her.
We get cunty, fun music, but we dont get toscream.

Photo: Scarlett Carlos Clarke
Unfollow you, thats just for me!)
But subconsciously, it does feel like this project is about more than me.
And that feels good.

Photo: Scarlett Carlos Clarke
As Taylor herself wryly observes, background music it certainly isnt.
You dont put it on in a shop.
Of course Ive got no streams, because if youre listening to me, youre fuckinglisteningto it!

Photo: Scarlett Carlos Clarke
Im proud of that.
That confrontational sound took a long time to find.
Money is going to be made.
you might make art and someones going to care about it.
That was the dream.
Im living the dream, while also being like,Is this the dream thats happening right now?
(If it catches you at a fragile moment, expect to weep.)
It was me and two girls doing little dance moves in shit bars.
WithPrioritise Pleasure, she was catapulted to the kinds of stages shed always dreamed of.
It was everything shed always wanted, until she realized it wasnt.
What saved her, somewhat counterintuitively, was the West End.
For the first time in her life, Taylor says, she found a semblance of inner peace.
How do you achieve that?
WithCabaret,it was amazing because I was getting a paycheck, which I realized psychologically felt like safety.
I really missed it, she says.
I thought, I really want to dothis,but say what I need to say as well.
What Ive learned is that you up it all, but youve still not got enough, she says.
I need that BeyonceLemonadebudget to get whats in here out properly!
Its really just a new challenge.
Within the show, Taylor is planning to expand upon the visual world shes already built around the record.
As for her Salem Fashion Week drag on the cover?
That wholeCrucible, Handmaids Talestuff…
It just doesnt work in America, I dont think.
I don’t think I could physically do that again.
Why do we always have to go to America?
I guess the money would be lovely.
And Id love to go and help a load of people over there.
Thats been my whole career, and Im trying to let go of it.
If you want me, thats cool.
If not, Ive got plenty of other things going on.
(And one about the football manager Brian Clough.)
Im just trucking along, she sighs.
Youve got a roof over your head.
Youve got a fucking nice life.
Thats what I worked hard to be able to do.
But I dont need to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
Its not that my ambition has wanedits sort of a healthy resignation in a way.
That hunger to just go, go, go… Taylor smiles sheepishly.